tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post2788323293004570180..comments2024-03-29T04:11:58.659-07:00Comments on F Yeah Lolita: Aristocrat: Lolita's Older, Quite Possibly Vampiric, Cousincaro-chanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02816959125315317615noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-82220618047804020192023-11-19T04:58:03.154-08:002023-11-19T04:58:03.154-08:00WAS THAT A MANA SAMA PICTURE?!?!??///?????
WAS THAT A MANA SAMA PICTURE?!?!??///?????<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-69343068079410031762022-09-10T18:18:48.827-07:002022-09-10T18:18:48.827-07:00um, shut upum, shut upAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-12852065787703401642022-09-10T18:18:19.036-07:002022-09-10T18:18:19.036-07:00shushshushAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-75447347530325872222015-08-28T17:37:32.510-07:002015-08-28T17:37:32.510-07:00just my opinion (as someone who both wears MMM and...just my opinion (as someone who both wears MMM and has a bit of an obsession with anything Mana-related) you don't have to have strictly Moitie brand clothing to be considered elegant gothic aristocrat; yes, Mana coined that term, but it's basically a combination of what you would think a dandy or aristocrat would wear, combined with elements from what you would normally find "dark and gothic" such as bats, coffins, crosses, roses, capes, etc. <br /><br />an example, if someone combined a regular aristocrat clothing attire with say a blue rose corsage, it'd add an "elegant touch". while aristocrats normally use minimal accessories, those accessories sometimes can make a huge difference to the style.<br /><br />again, just my opinion ;w;Yokoskitsunehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13360045684916824420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-7901874519198129632013-06-02T06:27:06.530-07:002013-06-02T06:27:06.530-07:00she /did/ say rosary-themed accessories opposed to...she /did/ say rosary-themed accessories opposed to just rosary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-58273764044768249592011-02-06T19:38:35.133-08:002011-02-06T19:38:35.133-08:00Happy to comment ^_^ Keep up the good work man.Happy to comment ^_^ Keep up the good work man.Emmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-68838010681162424142011-02-06T19:38:31.444-08:002011-02-06T19:38:31.444-08:00I wouldn't dismiss creams or dusty rose! It be...I wouldn't dismiss creams or dusty rose! It being Gothic isn't really about the color, but the style, you can creatively make an Aristocrat outfit with cream or dusty rose or blue or any color really, but it wouldn't really have bows all over it, bunny & strawberry prints, or any other Sweet Lolita details. I hope that makes sense XD<br /><br />I should maybe change that to "rosary styled necklace", as a lot of Gothic necklaces, while they aren't rosaries, are in a "Y" style like one. Wearing an actual rosary would be completely up to the judgment of the person wearing one as is wearing any religious motif.Caro-chanhttp://fyeahlolita.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-78725612322913404872011-02-06T19:38:30.859-08:002011-02-06T19:38:30.859-08:00I don't usually swear. But I feel compelled to...I don't usually swear. But I feel compelled to note that the left person's shoes in the last Aristocrat example picture are FUCKING AWESOME. I want them so hard.<br /><br />I've already decided to go Aristo when I feel I don't suit in Lolita any more, since I don't think I ever want to go back to dressing normally (it would feel too weird!), and this is a wonderfully helpful article. Thank you!<br /><br />Could one perhaps say that one difference between Western gothic and Aristocrat is that Aristo tends to be a bit more 'done' in look? I mean, cleaner lines, a more natural but more finished makeup style, a generally more... classy air? (Not that Western goth can't be classy, and I love trashy vampire-goth as much as any other style!)<br />Also maybe that shoes are a difference? Those super-huge 'witch boots' with the giant giant platform and heel that widens towards the bottom look popular in Aristocrat, and I'm sure I've seen rocking-horse boots and wooden platforms and the like in a few pictures too, whereas most of the western goths I see around tend to favour either simple rubber-soled platforms or Victorianesque lace-up boots.<br /><br />I'm sort of with Emma a bit on Aristocrat being only Gothic, since I've seen it done in other colourways and styles too in street snaps and such.Amelie Rosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-40983894175218402572011-02-06T19:38:30.328-08:002011-02-06T19:38:30.328-08:00I really like this post, it's very informative...I really like this post, it's very informative for those who just don't know. It's condensed but not lacking information.<br /><br />I do disagree with a couple of points. One being that Aristocrat is strictly Gothic (though I'm not sure if I think this because I'm not all that experienced in Aristocrat, so I apologise if I'm totally wrong). I wouldn't dismiss an outfit just because it were made from cream and dusty rose as opposed to black and whathaveyou.<br /><br />Also mentioning rosaries in the jewelery section. It is generally pretty offensive to consider the rosary as an accessory. Maybe chuck in a "wear with caution"?.<br /><br />I do love this blog, so keep up the good work ^_^Emmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-42720203383035971332011-02-06T19:38:29.616-08:002011-02-06T19:38:29.616-08:00I really wish there was a more classic/sweet versi...I really wish there was a more classic/sweet version of Aristocrat. I think an aristo outfit in a dusty rose colour or olive green would be stunning.SkyBluePinknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-71293702996415725852011-02-06T19:38:29.025-08:002011-02-06T19:38:29.025-08:00I think the Aristocrat style is amazing! It's ...I think the Aristocrat style is amazing! It's elegant, dark and somewhat scary in a very positive way. And I adore the second outfit with the bonnet!Rosalynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-54839536563723636542011-02-06T19:38:28.360-08:002011-02-06T19:38:28.360-08:00Aristocrat style is awesome...i think im in love w...Aristocrat style is awesome...i think im in love with the style~DreamyDemonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-90214510057243033362011-02-06T19:38:27.452-08:002011-02-06T19:38:27.452-08:00I have adored this style ever since I found out ab...I have adored this style ever since I found out about it a few years ago. It is classy, classic, appropriate for most ages, and beautiful. Prerhaps its greatest charm is its visual kinship with a romanticized, modernized Victorian mourning wardrobe. Say what you will about the Victorians (I personally love them) but it is undeniable that they has amazing taste when it came to mourning clothes.photographerleiahttp://magical-sword.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-74139178253181123052011-02-06T19:38:23.204-08:002011-02-06T19:38:23.204-08:00Thank you for the comment btw ^^Thank you for the comment btw ^^Caro-chanhttp://fyeahlolita.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-75451822096119239262011-02-06T19:38:22.544-08:002011-02-06T19:38:22.544-08:00I love aristocrat style. It sounds too darkling. B...I love aristocrat style. It sounds too darkling. But I've never wear like it. I feel encouraged to wear an aristocrat outfit now.Madrepérolahttp://doce-madreperola.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-26301161672232051392011-02-06T19:38:21.549-08:002011-02-06T19:38:21.549-08:00Awesome, thanks very much. [especially for the pic...Awesome, thanks very much. [especially for the pics... Mmmmm, Atelier Boz.]Il Ruinante Isaakhttp://hajimetearisto.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-24929142342974405002011-02-06T19:38:20.811-08:002011-02-06T19:38:20.811-08:00I have some serious respect for people that can pu...I have some serious respect for people that can pull off EGAKatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-57927884410618531382011-02-06T19:38:20.266-08:002011-02-06T19:38:20.266-08:00I love EGA, but I think it's actually MORE exp...I love EGA, but I think it's actually MORE expensive to coordinate than Gothic Lolita.Kaylanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-25769645268059503362010-12-12T09:46:51.949-08:002010-12-12T09:46:51.949-08:00No we have them too XD I think the difference woul...No we have them too XD I think the difference would be that Aristocrats don't actually wear Victorian clothes. Aristocratic clothes are all Japanese designers and they have a certain look to them. Outside of Lolita I consider myself a Victorian/Romantigoth and I really can't create an Aristocratic look with my goth wardrobe, even though most of it is Victorian inspired. When it comes down to it the different styles just have such a different look.Caro-chanhttp://fyeahlolita.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-71284544912878786412010-12-12T05:09:21.983-08:002010-12-12T05:09:21.983-08:00um, not to be odd but what about the romantic goth...um, not to be odd but what about the romantic goths? you know the ones who literally dress like Victorians? or do you just get them in Britain? serious question because when i first saw these guys i thought they were romantic goths. (romantic Gothic literature first appeared in the Victorian period.)selkiedutchessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-22210936776947476472010-11-16T20:00:45.166-08:002010-11-16T20:00:45.166-08:00I normally do not make a comment. But Aristocrat ...I normally do not make a comment. But Aristocrat is something that originated in the west not Japan. It was a western gothic and alternative style. There are pictures in music magazines in the early nineties it was rather popular in the alt-fashion community back then. I think it is one of the more mistaken opinions of folks into J-fashion is that aristocrat was a J-fashion. It was actually Japanese guys and girls who adopted western goth during the late 1990s, but the fashion itself was pre-existing. Goth by the early nineties already had several sub-fashions, aristocrat was one of them. This was pre-hot topic. I think one of the things that is lacking is an understanding of goth fashion in the Lolita community. Aristocrat is quite literally Lolita's much older Western cousin. I should know, I was one of those folks doing gothic aristocrat and neo-victorian during the early 1990s before it ever arrived in Japan. Just to note there was a classic aristocrat as well. The aristocrat style is great, but there is some major misconceptions about it. Western goths were doing it long before Malice Mizer or its appearance in Japan.Alt.fashion historynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-87280319393672241162010-07-06T21:41:29.127-07:002010-07-06T21:41:29.127-07:00Happy to comment ^_^ Keep up the good work man.Happy to comment ^_^ Keep up the good work man.Emmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-66189383954872952522010-07-05T03:08:22.570-07:002010-07-05T03:08:22.570-07:00I think the Aristocrat style is amazing! It's ...I think the Aristocrat style is amazing! It's elegant, dark and somewhat scary in a very positive way. And I adore the second outfit with the bonnet!Rosalynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-70168434214108397662010-07-04T13:16:23.568-07:002010-07-04T13:16:23.568-07:00I don't usually swear. But I feel compelled to...I don't usually swear. But I feel compelled to note that the left person's shoes in the last Aristocrat example picture are FUCKING AWESOME. I want them so hard.<br /><br />I've already decided to go Aristo when I feel I don't suit in Lolita any more, since I don't think I ever want to go back to dressing normally (it would feel too weird!), and this is a wonderfully helpful article. Thank you!<br /><br />Could one perhaps say that one difference between Western gothic and Aristocrat is that Aristo tends to be a bit more 'done' in look? I mean, cleaner lines, a more natural but more finished makeup style, a generally more... classy air? (Not that Western goth can't be classy, and I love trashy vampire-goth as much as any other style!)<br />Also maybe that shoes are a difference? Those super-huge 'witch boots' with the giant giant platform and heel that widens towards the bottom look popular in Aristocrat, and I'm sure I've seen rocking-horse boots and wooden platforms and the like in a few pictures too, whereas most of the western goths I see around tend to favour either simple rubber-soled platforms or Victorianesque lace-up boots.<br /><br />I'm sort of with Emma a bit on Aristocrat being only Gothic, since I've seen it done in other colourways and styles too in street snaps and such.Amelie Rosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6023134183255884485.post-36461843207761890172010-07-04T10:43:29.363-07:002010-07-04T10:43:29.363-07:00Aristocrat style is awesome...i think im in love w...Aristocrat style is awesome...i think im in love with the style~DreamyDemonnoreply@blogger.com