Bodyline, The Lolita's Walmart Part, 4: Brand Knock-offs, Reproductions, and Rip-offs

Part 4 of my Bodyline series focuses on the touchy subject of knock-offs, reproductions, and rip-offs. There is pretty much no way I can word this to make everyone happy. I can say "Why spend hundreds of dollars on a brand piece when you can get an acceptable knock-off from Bodyline?" and people will shout "But you don't understand how ~special~ brand makes me feel! Besides a clothing company making the same thing as another is theft!", but I don't care. Everyone is aware that these skirts are rip offs, no one is trying to pass them off as originals, Bodyline isn't claiming Mr. Yan lovingly hand painted them, and as far as I am aware the original brands who made these prints stopped selling them years ago, thus aren't loosing any money because no one is even able to buy them directly from the brand any more. Besides, have the Lolita's who are crying "Theft!" ever looked in a mainstream non-high end fashion magazine? Pick up something like Teen People, there are whole sections devoted to how awesome it is when places like H&M are selling things directly "inspired" from high end runways. Many mainstream fashion trends developed by trying to find knock-offs of what rich and famous people are buying, Lolita is really not that much different in that respect. Knock-offs are certainly not unique to Lolita, so please, stop acting like you never even heard of fake Gucci bags and those "Smells Like..." perfumes you can buy at Walmart until Bodyline released a Fruits Parlor print with "Angelic Pretty" edited off and it opened up your eyes to the world of evil design thefts. Just because other fashions do this, doesn't make it perfectly OK, but it doesn't make it an abhorrent evil that knows no rival just because it's done to something you really like.

Enough with that rant XD If you're still with me, and haven't closed your browser in anger and rushed off to weep on a Gothic & Lolita Bible over the crimes committed against Asuka and Maki, today were going to be talking about the different knock-offs that Bodyline sells. The good, the bad, and the ugly ones.

The Good Knock-offs
These Bodyline replicas are actually very cute. They seem to be made of good quality materials and either look just like the originals, or are changed a bit but still look pretty damned good.

Originally an Angelic Pretty coat, Bodyline makes a pretty faithful replica. The hearts are moved up a bit, I think in order to be pockets.


Aah shoe replicas. Unless a pair of shoes are made out of leather, I won't spend 100+ on them. No injection molded pleater shoe is ever going to be worth much to me. Brand or not, they are cheaply made, and they should be cheap. Bodyline's knock-off of these famous Baby, the Stars Shine Bright shoes are nearly identical.


Don't confuse this Innocent World knock-off with a "bad" knock-off just because it uses the same fabric. Not all brand dresses custom print their own fabric, but instead buy it from a fabric shop. The fabric used in this Bodyline knock-off is almost gaurenteed to be the exact same fabric as the brand version. Metamorphose, and I think a couple indies brands, have also used this same fabric.


Originally an Atelier Boz JSK, Bodyline makes a pretty good copy. As is typical of Bodyline knock-offs, it doesn't look like it has much poof. Maybe they just don't use a very poofy petticoat, or maybe, as a cheaper version, skimp on the skirt yardage a bit.


An oldie but a goody! This was a skirt Bodyline used to sell years ago, and it's a knock-off of an old Angelic Pretty skirt. The lace is a bit cheaper the the original, and the bow looks a little deflated, but other than that, it looks cute to me.

The "Bad" Knock-offs
These are the knock-offs that make people the most upset, print knock-offs. While Bodyline has never made a knock-off with the original brand's logo on the print, they are still not fooling anyone.


No one ever bothers to mention this print when they talk about Bodyline knock-offs. Originally an Angelic Pretty print, Bodyline edits out the "Angelic Pretty" and turns it into a simple JSK.


Another, bit more recent, print originally from Innocent World that is often forgotten about when people talk about the evils of Bodyline. It was released along side the Fruits Parlor skirt, but hardly gets any attention. Once again, "Innocent World" is edited out of knock-off and replaced by a little bow.


Probably the most infamous Bodyline Knock-off, and the one that caused some uproar on EGL, Angelic Pretty's Fruits Parlor. The Angelic Pretty version, when it bothered to pop up for sale, would often go for hundreds of dollars more than it's original price on the second hand market. Owning this fruit covered stripe and polkadot extravaganza from Angelic Pretty was a status symbol, no doubt about it. Then Bodyline released a version for $50, the skirt was sold as low as $11. And soon everyone had the skirt (which I promise you is not as fugly as the dress) in every colorway Bodyline Sold it in.

The Ugly Knock-offs
These dresses are either a total failure, or the original design was so WTF it's a wonder why anyone would want to make knock-offs of it in the first place!

While the Bodyline dress is not really ugly at all (depending on your opinions on the fabric, which tends to be love it or hate it), but it looks nothing like the Angelic Pretty original. I actually laughed out loud when I saw this dress next to the dress it wishes and hopes that it will one day grow up to be.

Eh, points for trying I guess? This Bodyline knock-off is an ambitious replica of a very elaborate Baby, The Stars Shine Bright dress. Poor fabric choices and a general lack-of-effort makes the Bodyline knock-off look very blah.


I am saving the worst for last with this Moi-même-Moitié replica. The original, while, in my opinion is not that great, it at least doesn't look like a misshapen bunch of satin rags attached to a pencil skirt.

Knock-offs, unless they are commissioned by a very fine seamstress, are pretty much never going to be as nice as the originals. Do you really expect to be able to buy a $300+ dollar dress for $50? Of course not. If you have been into Lolita for any amount of time, and own even a small amount of brand dresses, you know that they prices they charge aren't too ridiculous for what you are getting, soft, thick cotton and yards upon yards of high-quality lace. But knock-offs are a way of getting a similar style of dress for much cheaper. If you can find, afford, and fit into the original dress, then by all means, go for it, it will most likely be a thousand times lovelier than any knock-off. But sometimes one of those 3 things will set you back, you might just not have the hundreds of dollars, the right waist size, or the dress might be from so long ago in the Lolita time line you have very little chance of ever finding it. Or maybe you just want a piece or two in a style that you are still flirting with and don't yet feel comfortable dropping a large chunk of change on it ("I love it for $30, but not for $300!"). If this is the case, there's really no shame in a replica or a knock-off. If you love and want a dress, buy it, even if, for some reason, you have no choice but to buy a knock-off.

If you are interested in checking out many more of Bodyline's replicas, mostly for a good lulz, check out this site. It's a very comprehensive listing of most of the knock-offs Bodyline has put out over the years. I never even knew some of these pieces were knock-offs! Some pieces that I always though of as "Classic Bodyline Fug" are apparently pretty accurate replicas of real brands. I guess that just goes to show you that just because it's brand, doesn't mean it's tasteful.

51 comments:

  1. Personally, I admire someone who can assemble a great Lolita outfit from handmade and knock-off pieces way more than someone dressed in head-to-toe brand. Anyone with a high enough credit limit can buy from the best ateliers and look good; it takes real creativity and an understanding of the style to work with the rest. Of course, I could just be biased because I'm too poor to buy brand, even secondhand!

    P.S. I actually like the 3rd knock-off more than the original. I'm fairly flat-chested with narrow shoulders, so the thinner straps on the original would make me look bottom heavy and unbalanced.

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  2. Lovely post ^^

    Love the rant :3 We gotta rant sometime ^^

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  3. It's so true about Bodyline getting all the flack for the Fruits Parlor print, while they've been slipping knock-offs by other brands all along. Brand lolita is like a stock market and I wonder how many girls would pay $300 for a dress if they weren't as confident they could sell it back for around as much.

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  4. It's funny that you can actually see how crappy the knock-offs are when compared to the originals.
    I have bought and worn knock-offs but I'm always disappointed. So I've just stopped with them altogether. Very simple.

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  5. Hah, I own that musical note dress from Bodyline. I was fairly new to the fashion and didn't even realize it was a knockoff! I had just found out about Bodyline a week prior, and was thrilled to find lolita clothes so cheap!!

    I wore it to my only meetup so far and didn't feel too weird. I wear it as a non-lolita dress now and then too; just because I like it, and I always get tons and tons of positive comments.

    Heh. I've been thinking of buying that Atelier Boz knockoff for a while now, but I probably wouldn't wear it as a lolita dress. I'd wear it with just a petti (and maybe knee-high doc martens) to go dancing, and with a nice knit shirt under maybe a very light petti, tights and flats, as a work outfit.

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  6. The coat knock-off is really cute! I really wanted it,but they also have a cute similar bunny coat like that on cosmates,have you seen them? I call it a knock off because the price i much high for something that isn't even an original.

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  7. Your ranty posts are awesome, don't ever worry about getting ranty XD Also love the new layout!!

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  8. yeah, i basically agree with what you're saying. especially about brand shoes; they are rubbish. i own a pair and they are not worth what the website charges at all. it's frustrating with Japanese companies, and Japanese society in general, because they can be very stubborn. Baby is a prime example of that; using a more 'blame the customer' approach. they don't exactly make themselves approachable, and in turn that makes brands like bodyline more appealing (who actually interact with their market more, opinion-wise). i suppose above all it is just the principal i don't like. i do admit in some senses, brands need to take a note from their book and be more open and reasonably priced. i certainly wouldn't say no to that.

    i think it honestly comes across that it bothers me more than it actually does lol, but i think it's just my general disdain for EGL. i remember when i first joined EGL, it was actually when the fruits parlor knock offs were released. i remember thinking how awful that was, and how everyone will probably boycott them. i scrolled down and saw comments like 'AGGGGGH' and assumed it's because they were outraged; i actually then realised it was because everyone was happy! i was honestly really shocked. despite being admin i have never felt i have much in common other than clothes with most of the girls on EGL. especially after having been in the BJD community so long and actively (and i still do) take part in taking down those who copy. anyway, a little off track but that probably helps explain my exhaustion on the subject XD

    anyway, thanks for replying, i do find the subject rather fascinating. purchasing means different things to different people, and consumerism is very interesting to study *_* i've been a little obsessed with learning about Edward Bernays lately. If you ever wondered how females smoking became acceptable, as well as how 'public relations' came to exist you should have a read.

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  9. Not that I can speak from experience, just other people's experience but Japanese brands seem to have a "It's expensive because it's special and it's special because it's expensive" circular mindset. Which, as a westerner, is very frustrating. Especially when I want to unconditionally love my favorite burandos XD

    I know what you mean with the BJD community, it's something similar (expensive frivolous pretty things XD) but they go about it so differently. I've seen people on the BJD forums get all up in arms because Ebay Chinese BJD clothes sellers were selling designs similar to Luts clothes. Maybe what it boils down to is the very basic thing people see the two as? BJDs=art/sculpture, Lolita=clothes/necessity so Lolita seems to get away with it more.

    I will check out Edward Bernays. I find it interesting as well, but I know I tend to get stubborn about it sometimes!

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  10. I own this JSK from BL and it's really amazing!
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_D6bdv2JFr-4/S13t0MGTJqI/AAAAAAAABdM/WN6f1afMjAI/s1600-h/boz-dress.jpg
    The fabric is thick and nice, and there is A LOT of place for poof underneath, that's for sure:)

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  11. I guess the “problem” some people have with brand clothes is that you are not paying for the clothes alone, but also some abstract ideas like “design” and “brand concept”. Let’s face it, no matter how good the quality of a fancy BTSSB dress is, it’s still overpriced at 25,000 yen a piece only for the raw materials it made from and the manufacturing process involved.

    Yes I agree that the replicas at this moment are worse than the originals, but that’s only because it’s a niche market and so people are not investing much to make better replicas. Not sure if you’ve heard about it, there are replicas bags of brands like LV or Gucci that even the shop salesgirls can’t tell whether they are genuine or not. Two simple questions: Will you buy a replica dress if is exactly the same as the original, only a half or a third cheaper? If quality is no longer part of the question, will you still be willing to pay for those abstract ideas that you can’t really have in hand or wear on your body?

    I guess the hardcore Japanese lolita fans and the designers are more content to stay in a niche market instead of seeing italolis (いたロリ) wearing cheap-looking clothes with poor coordination and spoiling the image of lolita culture. That’s why they have been reluctant to open to foreign market, and perhaps it may as well be part of the reason why they are keeping the prices so high.

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  12. one more note on that, even though i agree with everything said here:
    sometimes bodyline will make a replica of an item, and there is something about that original item you disliked that wasn't in the replica. this especially seems to happen with printed items... bodyline will get the same fabric and make a completely different looking dress or jsk out of it. and i love that. a great example is the innocent world dress you showed up there... i didn't like it much. the bodice was too plain. the bodyline jsk, in my opinion, is much cuter. i kind of like knowing replicas will be made because it gives more options.

    and in some cases an item might be so changed and the print, such as music notes, might be so incredibly common a motif in lolita that an argement could be made that it's almost not a replica at all.

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  13. this is exactly why i will never wear brand. to be honest, i've bought offbrand dresses for $100 that were handmade that were good enough quality that i couldn't tell the difference between them and a friend's brand. i dislike obvious low quality, but i don't need lace that's been lovingly hand embroidered by nuns from venice or something. i just want something that looks nice and feels nice, and if i am paying extra for the process of making something, i'd honestly rather support someone who hand makes their clothes like some of the really awesome high-end commissioners. especially when pretty much all lolita clothing is cotton. the lace may be expensive, and printed fabric probably costs a lot, but even high-quality plain cotton is no where near expensive enough that those dresses cost $200 without a pretty freaking high "we only want the incredibly worthy unique special snowflakes to buy our items!" markup.

    i don't think of money as an indicator of worthiness the way the makers of a lot of the brands who i love seem to. a person can be born lucky and have enough money to buy a $500 dress just for the heck of it, to wear it once. a person can scrimp and save up and finally be able to afford one gorgeous used brand item. for me, the indicators of who's an italoli have more to do with the way their put their clothes together and the joy you can see on their faces at being able to wear them. i've also been hearing really troubling things about the people running the baby sf store... that they treat people badly if they think they are too fat or if they come in wearing something other than baby. that's an incredibly stupid business practice. everyone's money is worth the same amount. it's just not sustainable.

    if the quality of an item is the same or mostly the same (for example, if i buy a skirt, i really don't mind so much if it's not lined. no one will see the lining. i have petticoats and enough bloomers and such on to poof the skirt out and keep warm anyway. i don't see the point.) i would much rather buy a less expensive item. if i buy an offbrand jsk of roughly the same quality of a brand item for half the price, i have more money to buy accessories, shoes, etc. or to afford to go out and do stuff in my pretty new dress. and i'd rather do that. i don't understand the mindset of those who don't feel that way.

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  14. I have a question, does bodyline still sell the fruits parlor skirt replica?

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  15. Not to thread necromancy, but I have to say I'm not a fan of super-sweet lolita, but my roommate is a big AP fan. I liked Bodyline's Sugary Carnival knockoff a LOT more than the original simply because it's more muted.

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  16. I love this article! Unlike some OTHER lolitas I've talked to, you're not *attacking* Bodyline with every fiber of your sweet being! I love how you show the pros AND cons, but don't actually *order* everyone to just totally boycot Bodyline because they ripped off someone. -sigh- The reason I like it; I can actually FIT into it! Brand is made for Japanese, and Japanese are very very veerrrryyyy small...So most Americans can't fit well into it. Very very good post! I actually put it in my favorites! ^^

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  17. That last replica is hilarious!I think that even people who know nuttin' 'bout' loli fashion will know somethin's up with that skirt.

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  18. I have to say that there is a noticable difference between those shoes, and that's a good thing. Personally, I think the knockoffs are cuter.

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  19. The coat knock-off is really cute! I really wanted it,but they also have a cute similar bunny coat like that on cosmates,have you seen them? I call it a knock off because the price i much high for something that isn't even an original.

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  20. this is exactly why i will never wear brand. to be honest, i've bought offbrand dresses for $100 that were handmade that were good enough quality that i couldn't tell the difference between them and a friend's brand. i dislike obvious low quality, but i don't need lace that's been lovingly hand embroidered by nuns from venice or something. i just want something that looks nice and feels nice, and if i am paying extra for the process of making something, i'd honestly rather support someone who hand makes their clothes like some of the really awesome high-end commissioners. especially when pretty much all lolita clothing is cotton. the lace may be expensive, and printed fabric probably costs a lot, but even high-quality plain cotton is no where near expensive enough that those dresses cost $200 without a pretty freaking high "we only want the incredibly worthy unique special snowflakes to buy our items!" markup.

    i don't think of money as an indicator of worthiness the way the makers of a lot of the brands who i love seem to. a person can be born lucky and have enough money to buy a $500 dress just for the heck of it, to wear it once. a person can scrimp and save up and finally be able to afford one gorgeous used brand item. for me, the indicators of who's an italoli have more to do with the way their put their clothes together and the joy you can see on their faces at being able to wear them. i've also been hearing really troubling things about the people running the baby sf store... that they treat people badly if they think they are too fat or if they come in wearing something other than baby. that's an incredibly stupid business practice. everyone's money is worth the same amount. it's just not sustainable.

    if the quality of an item is the same or mostly the same (for example, if i buy a skirt, i really don't mind so much if it's not lined. no one will see the lining. i have petticoats and enough bloomers and such on to poof the skirt out and keep warm anyway. i don't see the point.) i would much rather buy a less expensive item. if i buy an offbrand jsk of roughly the same quality of a brand item for half the price, i have more money to buy accessories, shoes, etc. or to afford to go out and do stuff in my pretty new dress. and i'd rather do that. i don't understand the mindset of those who don't feel that way.

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  21. I guess the “problem” some people have with brand clothes is that you are not paying for the clothes alone, but also some abstract ideas like “design” and “brand concept”. Let’s face it, no matter how good the quality of a fancy BTSSB dress is, it’s still overpriced at 25,000 yen a piece only for the raw materials it made from and the manufacturing process involved.

    Yes I agree that the replicas at this moment are worse than the originals, but that’s only because it’s a niche market and so people are not investing much to make better replicas. Not sure if you’ve heard about it, there are replicas bags of brands like LV or Gucci that even the shop salesgirls can’t tell whether they are genuine or not. Two simple questions: Will you buy a replica dress if is exactly the same as the original, only a half or a third cheaper? If quality is no longer part of the question, will you still be willing to pay for those abstract ideas that you can’t really have in hand or wear on your body?

    I guess the hardcore Japanese lolita fans and the designers are more content to stay in a niche market instead of seeing italolis (いたロリ) wearing cheap-looking clothes with poor coordination and spoiling the image of lolita culture. That’s why they have been reluctant to open to foreign market, and perhaps it may as well be part of the reason why they are keeping the prices so high.

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  22. I don't think they have sold it for a while, you can usually still pick it up on the sales community though! Or, http://www.etsy.com/listing/50783826/fruits-and-parfaits-japanese-fabric-pink you can buy the fabric, but it's pretty expensive.

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  23. I have a question, does bodyline still sell the fruits parlor skirt replica?

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  24. one more note on that, even though i agree with everything said here:
    sometimes bodyline will make a replica of an item, and there is something about that original item you disliked that wasn't in the replica. this especially seems to happen with printed items... bodyline will get the same fabric and make a completely different looking dress or jsk out of it. and i love that. a great example is the innocent world dress you showed up there... i didn't like it much. the bodice was too plain. the bodyline jsk, in my opinion, is much cuter. i kind of like knowing replicas will be made because it gives more options.

    and in some cases an item might be so changed and the print, such as music notes, might be so incredibly common a motif in lolita that an argement could be made that it's almost not a replica at all.

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  25. commerce city sisterFebruary 6, 2011 at 7:40 PM

    The same thing happens in the regular fashion world with stores that produce replicas, such as forever 21 and h&m. Forever 21 seems to be the main culprit:
    http://fashionista.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=6&search=forever+21

    Either you love or hate replicas. They're great for those who can't afford to drop hundreds on one dress. Bad for brand loyalty.

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  26. It's so true about Bodyline getting all the flack for the Fruits Parlor print, while they've been slipping knock-offs by other brands all along. Brand lolita is like a stock market and I wonder how many girls would pay $300 for a dress if they weren't as confident they could sell it back for around as much.

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  27. Not that I can speak from experience, just other people's experience but Japanese brands seem to have a "It's expensive because it's special and it's special because it's expensive" circular mindset. Which, as a westerner, is very frustrating. Especially when I want to unconditionally love my favorite burandos XD

    I know what you mean with the BJD community, it's something similar (expensive frivolous pretty things XD) but they go about it so differently. I've seen people on the BJD forums get all up in arms because Ebay Chinese BJD clothes sellers were selling designs similar to Luts clothes. Maybe what it boils down to is the very basic thing people see the two as? BJDs=art/sculpture, Lolita=clothes/necessity so Lolita seems to get away with it more.

    I will check out Edward Bernays. I find it interesting as well, but I know I tend to get stubborn about it sometimes!

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  28. yeah, i basically agree with what you're saying. especially about brand shoes; they are rubbish. i own a pair and they are not worth what the website charges at all. it's frustrating with Japanese companies, and Japanese society in general, because they can be very stubborn. Baby is a prime example of that; using a more 'blame the customer' approach. they don't exactly make themselves approachable, and in turn that makes brands like bodyline more appealing (who actually interact with their market more, opinion-wise). i suppose above all it is just the principal i don't like. i do admit in some senses, brands need to take a note from their book and be more open and reasonably priced. i certainly wouldn't say no to that.

    i think it honestly comes across that it bothers me more than it actually does lol, but i think it's just my general disdain for EGL. i remember when i first joined EGL, it was actually when the fruits parlor knock offs were released. i remember thinking how awful that was, and how everyone will probably boycott them. i scrolled down and saw comments like 'AGGGGGH' and assumed it's because they were outraged; i actually then realised it was because everyone was happy! i was honestly really shocked. despite being admin i have never felt i have much in common other than clothes with most of the girls on EGL. especially after having been in the BJD community so long and actively (and i still do) take part in taking down those who copy. anyway, a little off track but that probably helps explain my exhaustion on the subject XD

    anyway, thanks for replying, i do find the subject rather fascinating. purchasing means different things to different people, and consumerism is very interesting to study *_* i've been a little obsessed with learning about Edward Bernays lately. If you ever wondered how females smoking became acceptable, as well as how 'public relations' came to exist you should have a read.

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  29. "I guess that just goes to show you that just because it's brand, doesn't mean it's tasteful." Thank you for saying that!! It's so true.

    Another point is that people often like to pretend that replicas and knock-offs are so evil, but to a certain degree brands often rip eachother off too.

    I'm also very glad that you mentioned that not everyone has the means or the cash to spends hundreds of dollars on one article of clothing. People often tend to forget or like to ignore this fact. Why should one person who loves the fashion just as much as any other lolita have to own no lolita clothes 'cause they can't afford brand? It's nice that you acknowledge that fact : D

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  30. Soon I'm buying my first Lolita outfit (JSK, blouse, shoes, socks, petticoat, headband) soon, I've been looking around different brand websites (IW, BtSSB, AP) I was shocked when I saw the prices of the JSK's! Now I'm only 14, so I don't have a job, and I get random bits of money now and then. So I thought, yeah, I'll get a JSK for my birthday, as it's coming up soon. It would have to be the only present I got, but I was okay with that. I hadn't thought about shoes, a blouse or even a petticoat!

    So I went back on the websites, looking for other stuff, thinking that it would be reasonably priced, but it wasn't:( The prices they charge are just ridiculous. >.<

    So now I'm glad I found Bodyline! I've scoured the website, and I can honestly say that like some of the stuff. I'm not overkeen on the dresses, I'd rather get a brand one xD but the shoes are cheap, and quite nice designs. The blouses are okay, some are weird xD but some would look pretty nice. And I could get all the stuff I wanted for only about $120, compared to the brand price of about $250-$300!

    So yay! This article/post was really helpful by the way!

    (Only just realised how long ago this was posted)

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  31. I hate to ask this but...

    I realize that what Qutieland has to offer won't be considered Brand (even though they do sell several different names) and is more budget-friendly, but is Qutieland also frowned upon and considered knockoff?

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  32. I quite like the Atelier Boz JSK replica being an A-line rather than a poofy dress, it looks pretty good and to me personally i prefer the A-line skirt of it better. It would be lovely to own an Angelic Pretty dress, but replicas will do as more people can afford them and enjoy them :)

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